Re: Nothing Can Move in Spacetime

Posted by sol on April 23, 19101 at 14:07:39:

In Reply to: Re: Nothing Can Move in Spacetime posted by Nemesis on April 23, 19101 at 09:17:59:

Nemesis,

I understand your point and the idea of the axis. I laid out a sequence of events, that I percieve exists and how I think the ideas might of manifested. Minkowski and his cone of light, Klein and his descritpion of a fifth dimension treaty on travering reality, Stephen Hawking and the balckhole, String theory and the tear in the fabric of space. These to me, have become events in perceptions, that can be laid over top one another. They are describing the same thing. Hopefully I can be corrected here if this perception is totally wrong:)

When I look into the world, I see this exchange of energy and momentum and the possibiity of it returning on itself in a different form. That this descritpion, could be explained in the Klein bottle is a unigue perception. The Mobius strip, and how a point becomes a transition event. This is important I think, in understanding the particles. How we talk about the collisions and the effect. It is okay that you feel the abstractions cloud the reality, for every perception held, has its own consequences.:)

In trying to understand the perceptions, knowing there is a mathematical base to it, I am not ignorant of what might be given to each and everyone of us, a chain of events. I kind of like Ray Watsons site, for it introduces probabilities and a enviroment that is conducive to understanding this reality. It may talk about different aspects of the musical vibration, yet it has a basis in algorithms that once you enter(like beliefs held)the pool game of tragetories begins. That the sum over path idea of Feynmen is demonstrated here, provides for some unique insights into those probabilities. That we can exemplified the position of the observer, and fire the photon(belief structure) engenders possibilities. For every action there is a reaction. Seems quite simple to me. The direction in motion that this might take is the question. Its relevance, is being talked about here in stratifications of knowledge, and appear as abtsractions, and are very important I believe, in understanding the outward manifestation and description, of a force that penetrates the very basis of reality. That its descriptions no less then manifest in these abstractions do need to be taken together, in light of their moments in time. Like that film strip and a point that traverses across the level of reality.

You will have to forgive me here for I have not travelled the routes of academic understanding in a schooled process, so I cannot give you the wide view of this sequence of events. It is no less important in trying to arrive at the why of the correlations. My perceptions, were well formed before I got here, and your example of Kant, was a foundation principle in talking about the paradigms of change. I have seen the attempts by individuals of trying to operate within enviroments that when challenged create a atmosphere that is very destructive to the desires of communication and understanding. How would you approach such a atmosphere of learning but to really define the boundaries of existance. The care with which this might be done I have talked about before. I have no problem at all with you attacking the very foundations. For it is in this scutiny, that we might look at the very belief structures we have adopted. I do have a problem with challenging the integrity of individuals, whether they have been immortalized in the minds of conceptions or not. It is easy to challenge the foundational precepts, and try and shake the foundations. To loosen up long held beliefs. It is not easy to repair the effects of hurt, that might have been misinterpreted.

So I am enjoying the challenge you are giving, for it is no less the ideal that any theory be challenged in the light of truth being gone after. This is not easy to understand, and I hope by shedding light on this, we all might be more tolerant of the illusional perspectives we come here to have straightened out.

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