Re: Time Machines and Zeno

Posted by Nemesis on April 09, 19101 at 22:23:08:

In Reply to: Time Machines and Zeno posted by DocN on April 09, 19101 at 13:15:24:

DocN wrote:

> You will have to first disprove that the equations of
> relativity and quantum theory, forbid such time travel
> phenomenons as time loops, and time reversal, as of now
> they are allowed.

Even if spacetime allowed time loops, it makes no difference. There is still no time travel. Why? Because nothing can move in spacetime. This is well-known by a sizable faction within the physics community, although most recent graduates will be amazed to hear it. Spacetime is an abstract mathematical construct, a static map of events, that is all. It does not exist physically. To move in time, a time dimension would need to exist but it can be easily shown that a time dimension forbids motion.

> Do you have some such mathematical proof, if so, please
> inform me. Of course, travel through a wormhole is easier
> said than done, hehe!

Nothing can move in a wormhole for the same reason that nothing can move in spacetime. It's rather simple.

If you parameterize a world-line using evolution parameter t thus (t,x(t),y(t),z(t)) then the 4-velocity is this: 1,dx/dt,dy/dt,dz/dt)

What this gives you is a velocity for the time axis of 1, a dimensionless and meaningless number. That's the reason why there is no motion in spacetime. It's that simple.

The more mundane proof is that motion in time is plain logically circular, in any direction. This is because it takes time to move a certain distance x such that v = x/t. Now if you are moving over a time axis t, the velocity equation becomes v = t/t = 1. Again it's meaningless. Have fun.

Nemesis

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http://home1.gte.net/res02khr/crackpots/notorious.htm

• Notorious Time Travel Crackpots

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